Sunday, 1st July 2007: Seven Colours @ Convent, Klang

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19 Responses

  1. ron sabi ron says:

    perggghhh!!! rugi seh tak dapat pegii.. even hari2 aku lalu sekolah ni.. awek sure ramai.. dah la girl school!!! urgrgggghhhhh!!!!

  2. Man Beranak says:

    ko memang mat cikaro lah Yus…Mat kenangan pun boleh gak..Ha!! Kak Iza cari ko!!!!!

  3. john doe says:

    How can corporate rock wannabe indie rock play same stage with hardcore and punk or indie rock bands? Funny thing is they are entitled to have place in RICECOOKER.

  4. Joe Kidd says:

    elaborate please boss. has hujan or couple signed to EMI or something?

  5. john doe says:

    signing another story…but their background before make me curious. CHECK OUT bands background are they they the kids or they are another musician who are from mainstream which don’t have place to go besides the scene. Im not the boss or pemantau. JUST CURIOUS how things have drastically change. Dulu cite lain skrg cite lain. Look down to your peers who tried to make a change or let those mainstream musician sucks up your scene thats my curiosity . I’m thinking if one of kristal guys turn to be independent musician would he entitle a place in the scene?

  6. Nox says:

    Sorry to butt in but I happen to stumble upon this interview with the band The Majestic Twelve : http://www.culturebully.com/forget-indie-vs-major-an-interview-with-the-majestic-twelves-kenyata-sullivan
    Read and weep!

  7. john doe says:

    hi nox the interview is cool but the talks bout those independent bands goes to mainstream…… and how about those mainstream musician playing indie coz the hype and got a place in independent shows?

  8. Joe Kidd says:

    Joe Doe, I don’t know much about Kristal, man. I don’t read URTV, or Mangga, Malay papers or even ROTTW and my house doesn’t have ASTRO. When it comes to the local mainstream music industry, I’m totally at lost; apart from Siti Norhaliza and KRU that is! Hah!

    So, excuse me for my ignorance but I don’t see where’s the connection here. I have been asking some friends about this, who is Kristal? is one of them now in Hujan or what? Nobody knows actually. Some said one of the Hujan guy used to be in a Rap band thing, etc. but nobody knows for sure.

    All I know is that Hujan put out their own CDs, sell it by hand, they busk around town, selling their CDs on the streets and they are popular among the Malay/Indo rock indie-gig goers. Today I heard they managed to sell 600 copies of their CDs just by doing that.

    I saw them first at a small acoustic thing at Fathul’s exhibition opening near my house. Musically it’s not my cuppa tea, but I admired their work ethics. Very rajin one,

    But, are we talking about Hujan or some other band? Can you be a lot clearer on this, John?

    Anyway, so what if there’s a “big” band on a flyer when there are like 10 or 12 other new, struggling bands on there which needs our support? Should I ignore that show just because of one single band in it which doesn’t fit the “parameters” of DIY? Well, I don’t think so.

    BTW; our “parameters” are very subjective, and may well be very diverse and different or in opposition anyway, so don’t lose sleep over it lah.

  9. Joe Kidd says:

    As for the “mainstream” and “indie” or “DIY” thing; Ricecooker generally avoid major-label related bands unless they are BLACK SABBATH! Ha ha!

    But of course I’m as biased as anyone else, and nothing is perfectly black and white, so thanks for pointing out some anomalies to that “rule” in your head.

    And don’t fret too much about it as it will happen again I’m sure.

    As for that “Majestic Twelve” interview, so what if it’s about “independent bands going mainstream’? It doesn’t mean it has nothing to do with what we are talking about here. There’s a lesson to be learned from that.

    What that band’s saying is that if you choose to be on a major, get the best deal you can. Fight for a set of terms that work with what you want. “good contracts vs. bad contracts. Fair compensation vs. unfair compensation.” This is what I think Sonic Youth managed to get for themselves. And yes, I love Sonic Youth still.

    In short, if you wanna be a prostitute, be a damn well-armed, well-covered and aware prostitute that would not get beaten up and fukked over by your pimps. Learn your karate chops!

    We all have to admit that every year we will see many bands using the independent scene as a stepping stone to that. That is normal boss. In the history of local scene you can count many bands who have used that route; and I don’t need to mention their names.

    Where would these bands start anyway? The scene allows for everyone to come in and do what they wanna do. It’s a democratic space where you can learn your chops. After all that, it’s back to where you wanna go. It’s your choice.

    As far this blog is concerned, it’s about documenting and promoting indie and DIY bands and acts. Once that band has crossed over to the majors, then it’s no longer my business. but a hearty “good luck” for them anyway, because they would really need a lot of luck out there!!

  10. xnizangx says:

    he might be refering to hujan’s guitarist which used to (or still?) playing and been writing most songs for Coco. well, i dunno Coco nor Hujan that well but to me it’s not a bigggie issue.

  11. Joe Kidd says:

    Coco? Dang! Isn’t that that Hong Kong singer, the Celine Dion of Asia? Shit! I’m totally lost!

  12. xnizangx says:

    Coco local band lah.

  13. john doe says:

    Hujan consists line up from diva, coco, bhumi band, and the vocal once before a rapper.. Its not biggie?

  14. ujeng says:

    hoho joekid bahang coco hongkong hanyar…aku ingat coco hongkong tu gok…comel pelik haha

  15. Dude says:

    It’s not a big deal. Who care if that guy once a rapper. hahaha…

  16. rizie says:

    coco? ade album tak?cam tak pernah dgr je.coco lee pernah la.kalau coco lee,fuh..meleleh beb..ekekekeke..hurmm.no wonder la form 2006 pun dah ramai roadie..ekeke…lelaki pujaan malaya tuh.ekekeke.

  17. shahrizal says:

    coco hong kong tuh coco lee lah

  18. Joe Kidd says:

    Hey John Doe, thanks for the info and also the concern.

    As much as I like to keep Ricecooker’s coverage around the immediate indie/DIY scene, sometimes it can go outside of that parameters, but I like to keep it that way. I don’t want to have ricecooker to be so strict, regimented and dogmatic. I like to give it a bit of a slack, you know. A bit more grey areas, and not so much boring black and white. Life so much more fun with crazy colours and contradictions.

    But that doesn’t mean that you cannot criticise or comment on it according to your views. Do keep me on my toes. Thank again.

  19. john doe says:

    Well maybe some don’t care bout who are they before. but its always been question for me. over the years when i see kids from the scene who try to do something different in DIY been condemned even though they doing it independently.

    Another question lets say awie wanna go indie. Does he have some space here? But how bout some kids who goes to so called mainstream and still bring up the ideas bout doing something with the music such as being diy or punk rock ideas?

    Why they dont have place in DIY space like here?. For me hujan its just a corporate rock ppl wannabe indie who just dont have place to go. And now they take crap out from the scene and u can see now where they going. nowadays you see they playing with few corporate shows after getting the attention.

    I dont have problem with anything. But its just some question i dont understand why kids who try to make a change in industries been misunderstood of their interest while band like hujan easily can be accepted.

    Sorry if this sounds bad

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