Saturday, 29 March: Three Chords and the Truth @ MCPA hall

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  1. Yeah, Aku sendiri memang menjangkakan yang reaksi yang banyak. Cuma yang agak mengejutkan, bila crowd yang disangkakan dah cukup bijak untuk hidup, seolah macam refuse untuk mendengar. Refused untuk mendengar pendapat orang lain.

    Bagi aku, memang aku dah sedia maklum yang akan ada mereka yang tak bersetuju. Tapi, bukankah perlu kita untuk mendengar dulu pendapat pihak lain? Dan, kalau tak puas hati, boleh la jumpa nak tanya ke, nak berhujah ke ape.

    Ini tak. Even masa ada band buat explanation pasal lagu pun, macam tak suka. Rasa macam membazir masa gila. Sedangkan, bagi aku sendiri benda tu, macam sesuatu yang positive. Bayangkan, kalau someday, ada band yang nyanyi lagu-lagu yang berbaur perkauman, rasanya mereka pun akan okay-okay je. Layankan je. Asalkan band tu, ada lagu yang punk-punk. Lirik, belakang cerita.

    Itu punk? Yeah! Truth hurt. tapi, kita kena telan dan kita kena realise yang ignorant tu, memang sesuatu yang cool.

    Dan, aku agak kesal sebab ada yang kata apa aksi yang kami buat ni, macam satu paksaan. Macam memaksa orang untuk setuju dengan pandangan gay-friendly ni. Tapi, hakikatnya, bagi aku sendiri, secara personal, aku hanya memberitahu, hanya berpendapat, memberitahu bahawa, yang gay, lesbian, pondan, bisex atau apa pun yang dipandang sebagai “tak normal” ni, ada hidup sama-sama dengan manusia lain. Dan, sebagai manusia, kita seharusnya melayani satu sama lain, dengan taraf yang sama. Kami, hanya ingin memberi pandangan dan pndapat kami. Dan aku sendiri, suka kalau ada orang yang menerima. Tapi, tak guna, kalau menerima tanpa berfikir dulu. Kalau kita tak faham benda tu dulu, buat apa nak terima, kan? Jadi, fahamkan dulu. Dan kami, cuba untuk memahamkan yang lain, bahawa apa pun orientasi seksual kita, kita adalah sama.

    Jadi, ada jugak aku dengar orang yang kata, “benda ni tak boleh nak cakap kat sini”. Jadi, aku terfikir, kalau tak boleh nak cakap kat sini, maksudnya, di dalam hardcore punk tu sendiri, kita masih terbatas bersuara menentang sesuatu yang menyekat. Macam ironik. Habis tu, nak cakap benda ni kat mana? Belakang rumah dia?

    Jadi, di dalam HC punk, tak boleh ada perbincangan? Ada sesetengah benda yang masih lagi dianggap sebagai sensetif? Aku ingat, yang kita semua ni, boleh je senang membincangkan apa topik sekali pun, sebab bagi aku, punk adalah orsng yang akan berfikir, dan dia mampu berfikir tentang apa pun, atau sekurangnya, dia boleh je membincangkan tentang apa pun.

    Jadi, kalau ada halangan macam tu, rasanya keadaan ni sama je kat luar sana tu. Yang mana, terlalu banyak sekatan diwujudkan.

    Mungkin, lepas ni, akan ada Akta Berbincang yang mana, kita akan kene tangkap kalau kita bincang tentang benda2 yang “sensetif” ni.

    Haish.

    Tapi, apa pun. Show hari tu, sangat menarik dengan kebanyakkan band yang main, macam menarik la. Lagi pulak ada part explaination. Paling menarik bab tu la.

    Hehe.

    Cheers!

  2. alak says:

    Salleh,
    I’m proud and i totally support what u guys have done that day. Not many people here in this so called “malaysia”, would ever have the guts to do such thing. Sincerely from my view, the first 15 minutes of the act was going well,your point was delivered. But when it tend to drag, the message was going no where and no discussion was coming out from it. All i could hear was annoying shouts and cursing from morons here and there. So maybe if it were done in a ‘forum’ manner,then we could get a two way conversation.

    Just look on the bright side. It was’nt the ‘whole’ crowd who were against it and i’m sure, some of them liked what they were seeing. And of course it was really a great attempt in opening the mentality of some kids. And it was also a kick in the homophobic faces.

    About the part of the crowd who were against it,dont get too frustrated. There’s always some other way to tackle that kind of crowd. These so call ‘punk’ crowd has been in the scene for some time and it has been fucked up long before. I believe, some of them will grow matured and understand it. Just give it some time and let them learn thru experience. One proof i can give u is,from the years before, i’ve changed myself. So just keep up the good work!

    kena sambung keje balik ah bos!

  3. redneckhope says:

    Satu issue yg taboo utk dibincangkan secara terbuka di Malaysia.Namun bg sebahagian masyarakat ia sebenarnya satu issu yang tebu / manis utk dibincangkan.Bagi tujuan menaikkan martabat supaya semua orang akan berebut-rebut utk mengetahui / memahaminya.Usaha memartabatkan ini tidak jauh bezanya dengan memurtabakkanya.Bilamana ianya menarik / sedap / isi tebal / banyak daging, sudah pasti ramai yang akan tertarik dengan murtabak ini.
    Namun demikian persoalannya kini, adakah usaha memurtabakkannya akan membuahkah hasil?

    Gay,Lesbian, Pondan.Cukup tinggi ronggi-ponggi budaya / tatacara hidup kita kini maka terhasil dengan lambaknya insan / manusia seperti ini.Aku pasti tidak ada satu ibu bapa pun yang mmg mengarahkan / meminta / merayu / mengecek / memaksa / memujuk anak-anak mereka utk menjadi insan / manusia sebegitu. So, bagaimana mereka ini terbentuk? Satu persoalan yg terlalu individu. Mengapa memilih utk menjadi begitu? Satu persoalan yg terlalu individu.

    TUHAN. Suatu yang tidak dapat digambarkan dgn tepat bagaimana rupa / bentuk / ukuran. Namun ianya wajib dipercayai. Ada yg tidak percaya? Aku pasti akan ada satu jawapan yg mereka ini panggil CREATOR. Jika tidak, may be mereka ini percaya kepada ahli-ahli silap mata yg seperti mampu melawan arus / songsangkan / liwatkan ciptaan / kejadian TUHAN (betulkan jika saya meleset).

    Apakah / Bagaimanakah / Mengapa perlu hubungan manusia / insan dengan TUHAN / CREATOR ini? Adakah ianya seperti kawan-kawan, SMS ON TEMAN bila anda kesunyian / kesusahan / kesakitan?

    Boss!

  4. johnhafiz says:

    Mewakili Onani, aku ingin meminta maaf ke atas segala kesulitan atau isu yang kami timbulkan.

    Kami hanya mengambil peluang tersebut untuk memberi penjelasan mengenai kami bukan untuk menidakkan pandangan mereka yang melakukan persembahan sebelum kami.

  5. cactusdistro says:

    Just a song to share bout whats happening last saturday.

    Oppression.
    We walk so proud, we walk so free, I heard you shout!
    Do all you want, say all the rage you have inside!
    Open your eyes, society. See what you got.
    You think you’re free. You think you’re safe. You know you’re not!

    What do you read? What can you see?
    Between the lines.
    What can you you do? What can you say?
    When you are blind?
    Where should we shout. Where should we turn. When we see their fault?
    Are we so thick? Are we so dumb? Just like they want?

    We’ll raise our voice! no way!
    We’ll raise our fists! no way?
    Is this your face, democracy? Conformity?
    We’ll criticize! No way!
    We’ll organize! No way!
    What’t in your gloves, democracy, black iron fists?
    Where’s our rights? No where!
    Where’s our tounge? No where?
    Where’s our voice, democracy? Stability?
    What should we see? Nothing!
    Whats shoule we think? nothing!
    Where’s our sight, democracy?
    you hide the key, you’re blinding me!

    Carburator DUNG – Oppression!!

  6. thilaga says:

    “Aku cuma kecewa ada antara individu dari pihak yang buat persembahan tersebut dan juga dari individu dari crowd, yang berfikir dengan emosi kerana tak berpuas hati sesama sendiri.Sikap macam tu tak akan selesaikan apa-apa malah hanya akan jejas mesej yang cuba di sampaikan dan meleretkan perbalahan. Emosi negatif ni yang
    akan bunuh keterbukaan seseorang dan apa yang lahir cuma ego dan ‘judgementation’/penghakiman pada orang lain. Bukan ke ia hanya akan membawa lebih dekat kepada sifat fascist?”

    i have mixed feelings writing this as i have a lot respect for alak and i know that whatever he wrote about the individuals, partly reflects on me and some friends yang memang tak puas hati with what happened the other day.
    what pissed me off (dunno bout the rest of kudeta and cintaitubuta ppl) was the fact that everyone seem to be compromising and rationalizing everything.and also the fact that it seemed as if, emphasis on seemed as if, the dude from onani was trivialising the whole thing by making such a vague and misleading comment in female clothes. i could have misunderstood whatever he (onani dude) was saying as i was busy mengamuk-ing. đŸ™‚
    yes even though i have a problem saying this, i somewhat agree that people dont have to accept those who choose to lead an alternative lifestyle. but they cant discriminate them either. thats all that we were trying to say. but then, outside, came all these stupid analogies and rationalization which did not make sense and it was simply unacceptable. exactly why it felt like we were going at it or something like that, padahal we were just debating on two different ideas. it might seem like i am downplaying it but thats what happened, in a very passionate way, with me being totally annoyed and stubborn and them wanting us to rationalize what happened.
    the scene or whatever you call is suppose to be a safe space for everyone and there should be zero tolerance towards discrimination as such. i mean, the reaction towards our action can be considered as a discriminatory act towards us. thats the thing that we were debating about outside; questioning the tolerance towards things like this. that doesnt mean that we are being negative or draggin it or not resolving anything. with the whole heated discussion outside and the “performance” we actually knew what were the stand of people about the whole issue. so i think in the end what happened after the “performance” was good cos at least now we know how much can we push the agenda. so i dont see why is there the kecewa-ness there and why should it be seen as a negative thing. as u were saying alak, if it can trigger conversation outside pun dah kira macam there is an impact.
    and i REALLY dont see how did u make that connection to the fascism thing. maybe its just me.

    thilaga

  7. alak says:

    thilaga dear,
    Thanks for the comment and please dont take anything personal on what i wrote. As what i stated earlier, whatever i wrote is not an attempt to point fingers to anybody and i’m not proclaiming what I’ve written is right.

    Firstly, my ‘kecewa’ was merely on the fact that the “debate” did’nt actually happened and the point was going in no direction. There was too much tense in the air. In an environment like that, certainly we would not achieve a healthy discussion. Both sides were too fired up with emotions and started to lose the grip. When emotion takes control, it denies the logics of thinking and making decisions. This is where people tend to ‘snap’. How are we to make an intellectual judgment if we are all up caught up in our own emotions?
    One side should have calm down in order to take control of the situation. Being ‘calm’ here doesnt mean that we surrender our fight and accept whatever is against our way of thinking. We saw that some of the crowd was responding negatively, so whats the next step?. If it doesnt go well this way, then we can always think of another way.

    This so called ‘scene’ has long before been an ‘unsafe’ space. It is because its a free space and there are no regulations to be in the ‘scene’. Anybody is welcome to be in the scene. Even if a righteous pemuda UMNO comes knocking at the ‘scene’ door,we cant shush him out and lock the gates. Its a matter on how are we to make it safe for everybody, besides promoting a healthy lifestyle. We cant deny the fact that there will always be rednecks,conservative thinkers etc. They are EVERYWHERE. Its a chance for us to understand them and the situation much more, which we could then guide them in making a better choice in life.

    I agree and its true that the reaction from most of the crowd was discriminatory, as i expected. Why did they reacted like that? It maybe because they’re so caught up in their skin and religion which makes them self-righteous which lead them to their hate,anger and discrimination. They build up a wall and reject any ideas against what they believe. Limiting the choices of others is a big essence in being a fascist.
    Life is about making choices. And dont forget that the main point of the ‘act’ that day was to present to the crowd a better offer and choice in life. Some of them rejected with discrimination and behaved like morons throwing blaring curses. It was disappointing but are we suppose to get all pissed-off and angry back at them? Doesnt that make us no different from them? I responded with what i written before because i myself heard some angry emotional words and labels being thrown back to the crowd.

    Anyway thilaga, u guys did a good job. maybe the execution did’nt turn out quite well. but still its really a good effort. And i apologize to anybody who got offended with my views on the incident.

  8. thilaga says:

    hey alak,
    you know i agreed with you the other day and i still do. its just that i wanted clarify why did we react that way cos i think our reaction could have been misinterpreted. and the mere fact that you expressed your kecewa-ness was kinda like confusing and like “what the hell?”
    of course the debate didnt not have any direction mainly cos as i have said earlier we were talkin about different ideas and both parties were adamant to prove their point. but at least now we know where people stand and what is their take on the issue.
    i dont think there are any reasons for you to apologize. in fact, we have to thank you for a) givin us the opportunity and b) making that stand on stage after the “act” to calm the situation. and yeah, its a long way to go so we have to sambung keje!

  9. xAhmad Safuanx says:

    meang btul pon..
    tp byk org xley tima tu..
    drg juz pg gig for fun..
    they don care about the poetry or etc..
    so,good job//

  10. xAhmad Safuanx says:

    sebab tu aley2..
    melenting je..heh

  11. ceh rugi aku x dpt pi…x dpt nak folo up ape yg terjadi!!! huhuh…ade vid x nak gak tgk…:)

  12. limtat says:

    siotlah..aku tak dapat seh nak tgk ONANI perform..ada poetry??lagilah rugi..adehhh!!!buat lagi nizang!!buatlah lagi ea??
    ahakzz..best¬?!!!

  13. weasel says:

    mb crowd mrh psl dorg kissing2 kot..u know it’s like sex we do it blakang2..not depan org ramai..tah ler =P

  14. epit says:

    diorg kissing2 tu bukan symbolic ke?
    kalau nak sampaikan kat org ramai kena buat blkg2 ke?
    tak paham kenapa org nak marah.

  15. thee dr. says:

    Wow-one minute we’re talking about the old Kuantan scene-but it seems now we’re talking about gay rights? Okay..first of all, a little advice on doing shows-get around 4-5 bands tops-this is partly to hold people’s attention, partly so the house gear doesn’t blow out. Here’s whatcha do:each band gets 40 minutes-10 to set up, 30 to play.Then, make RM5 entry-this is so even young kids who don’t work or are on drugs or whatever can afford it and also take part in the fun- and give the bulk of the money to the people from outta town-I don’t mean if you’re from Klang or Shah Alam and you play in KL you’re ‘out-of-town’-yes, technically you are, but I’m referring to the peeps from Kuantan,Penang, etc…so maybe I mean out of state but still you know what I’m saying-at least make sure they have some ‘tambang bas’ to get back. It sucks having to go to KL or somewhere way the fuck out there unprepared so it’s nice to know you can get back. I’m not saying this because I’m a ‘gig guru’ but I’ve organized a couple over here (Ohio, that is).
    As for the gay rights thingie…hoo boy. I guess I feel the same way I do about race-they’re human beings. People are quick to judge-they see a gay or mak nyah and automatically think they sell ass or some bullshit- but they’re just people. The thing Ithat fucks with me is that whenever we talk about social progress in Malaysia, some people automatically reject it as ‘stail Mat Salleh’, or ‘dimpot dari Barat’, or ‘budaya asing’ but the thing is, wanting to live in peace and happiness without having to be fearful of your govt. is a universal human trait-your human rights weren’t the result of legislation, they are a gift from someone Higher than you. But when you’re challenging the rights of anyone else, you’re only challenging your own. Do you want that? What makes them less worthy of rights than the straight people? Also when you use terms like ‘liwat’ or whatever you’re oversimplifying it;there is a lot more involved than just the physicality. There is intellect, emotion, enviroment, biology. So anyway..check out my band:www.myspace.com/fascistinsect.

  16. Lugnut says:

    Whatever it is, RESPECT is everything..
    Human Right is all about RESPECT..
    The gay, Lesbian, Pengkid, The Crowd, The Presenter, The Organizer, The Band = HUMAN

    So, Where is the Rights..??
    Where’s The humanity..??
    Where’s The Respect..??

    PERNAH TAK KAMU SEDAR SIAPA YANG PATUT DIPERSALAHKAN.?

    PERNAH TAK KAMU SEDAR YANG SCENE HC/PUNK ADALAH TREND BARU DIMALAYSIA.?

    SCENE POLITICAL PUNK DAH LAMA BERTAPAK, KENAPA SEKARANG BARU SEMUA PUNK ROCKERS SEDAR AKAN KEWUJUDANNYA..?

    KENAPA ISU-ISU BERAT BARU DIKETENGAHKAN PADA MASA SEKARANG.?? KENAPA TIDAK PADA 1993-2003..??

    KENAPA MINDA SEKARANG BARU SEDAR..??

    FIKIRKAN LAH.

    KAMI TGGU ISU-ISU INI DITENGAHKAN DARI TAHUN 1999.
    OLEH KERANA DIDALAM SCENE MASIH ADA DISKRIMINASI ANTARA SATU SAMA LAIN MEMBUATKAN KAMI BERHENTI SEJENAK.

    BUKAN CONDEMN, TAPI TIADA ALASAN UNTUK INI..
    KERANA SIFAT-SIFAT “MELAYU” YANG MASIH MENEBAL DIKALANGAN PUNKERS.

    BUKAN RACIST, TAPI ITULAH REALITI.
    REALITI YANG MANUSIA TAHU TAPI TIADA BANTAHAN DILAKUKAN KERANA TAKUT AKAN CEMUHAN PUNKERS YANG LAIN. TAKUT HILANG KAWAN, TAKUT JATUHNYA REPUTASI,
    JUGA KERANA PUNKERS YANG LAIN AKAN MUDAH BENCI
    PADA ANDA WALAUPUN MEMPUNYAI PENDAPAT UNTUK DITENTANGKAN.

    JADI PERSOALANYA ADALAH. :DIMANAKAH KEBEBASAN..??

    PASAL 3 (UNDANG-UNDANG HAK ASASI)

    Setiap orang berhak atas kebebasan mempunyai dan mengeluarkan pendapat; dalam hak ini termasuk kebebasan memiliki pendapat tanpa gangguan, dan untuk mencari, menerima dan menyampaikan informasi dan buah pikiran melalui media apa saja dan dengan tidak memandang batas-batas

    TAPI BILA ANDA MENGKAJI DAN KHATAM TENTANG UNDANG-UNDANG HAK ASASI. MACAM MANA PUN RESPECT TETAP TIANGNYA(ISI). TANPA TIANG ROBOHLAH BUMBUNG(ASAS).

    JADI SIAPA YANG PATUT DIPERSALAHKAN..??
    FIKIRKAN KAN LAH..

    SETIAP INDIVIDU ADA HAK, SETIAP INDIVIDU ADA KEBEBASAN.

    JADI SAYA MINTAK MAAF JIKALAU TERSALAH KATA, KALAU SALAH TOLONG TUNJUKKAN.
    SAYA SEBAGAI MANUSIA ADA HAK UNTUK BERSUARA DALAM APA CARA PUN. INI ADALAH PENDAPAT SAYA.

    FIKIRKAN HAK SAYA..

  17. Lugnut says:

    APA-APA PUN.
    CUBALAH HIDUP TANPA BENCI MEMBENCI, DISKRIMINASI,
    KERANA MANUSIA SEMUA DARI SATU PUNCA YANG SAMA.
    CUBA LARI DARI SIFAT BURUK MANUSIA. MANUSIA MEMANG TAK PERFECT BUT ANDA BOLEH MENGUBAHNYA(KAWAN KAWAN RAMAI ORANG MELAYU KOT, TAPI CAM SEMUA SAMA JE).
    WHATEVERLAH..HOHOHOH

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